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MG Exclusive: An interview with The National

Postby *MB* » Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:55 am

The MuG recently spoke with The National singer/lyricist Matt Berninger as the band continued its US tour. In true Music Gourmets fashion, we didn't ask the same 10 questions you see everyone else asking...

Talk about the current tour, and the realities of life on the road. I think must music fans have come to realize that it's not all that glamorous, but what is your day-to-day really like?


It's actually gotten much nicer. For years, traveling around in a van, cramming 5-7 adults in a van and all your gear, staying on floors. That was pretty grueling, and we did that for a long time. I can't complain about the bus now.
Our life is either on a bus, or in a club all day, every day. Very rare to have time to have a nice dinner, or stay out late partying. Soundchecking, loading/unloading, or time in bunk is 90% of your time.
I complain, but I don't want to go back to the day job quite yet (designing Web sites for pharmaceutical companies). Which, incidentally, pays a lot better.

Recently, bands like Rilo Kiley have had to dodge accusations of "selling out" as their records get poppier and more accessible. Is their any pressure on the band to make records that are at least somewhat obtuse? Is the goal to hear your music on mainstream radio?


Mianstream radio – there's not the pressure there once was on bands to make a radio hit. We do try to write songs that are instantly catchy and accessible. Often, those types of songs just don't hold our interest long enough. "Radio-friendly" and "good" are not mutually exclusive, though.
If we can listen to it 20 times and still like it, we'll put it on the record. No pressure from the label, which is nice.

The National's albums are often referred to as "growers;" albums that take some time to ingratiate themselves with the listener. How much of this is on purpose? Do you enjoy this characterization of writing "difficult" music, or do you ever wish you could just hammer out a three-minute pop song?


Never on purpose, but I think it's the way we write, our process. The only songs we put on the record are the ones that stand the test of time, months after the original idea that we still feel moved by. It makes sense that it might take a little time for folks who are first hearing us, it's a similar process to when we wrote it.
We think all our songs are instantly lovable, then we find out later that it takes folks some time.

Are your albums intended to be listened to as a whole or as individual songs?

We put the album together, thinking of it as a single 45-minute thing. Each song has to stand up on it's own, but we do see it as an album, with "Boxer" especially. We really feel like it works best as an album.

How do approach playing festivals where your time-slot is, say, 1:30 in the afternoon? How does it differ from playing in a darkened club at midnight?

It's a different kind of experience. Playing for much bigger crowds, where people are just kind of there having fun. Not the kind of scrutinizing audience you get at your own show. The environment is different, and I'm sure we react accordingly, but we don't consciously do anything different.
I prefer the dark, indoor late-night show. But there's something easy about playing for a lot of people who have never heard of you before.

Recommend a band that far too people have heard of, and a band you love that might surprise folks.

There's a band called The Forms, from New York, that just recorded their second record with Steve Albini. Really great record. I also love the Elvis Perkins record, that I just recently discovered.
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Been listening to a lot of Erasure and Depeche mode as of late. 80's dance rock, "Only You" by Yaz. Been trying to get the guys to cover it.

Name two-three songs you'd like to cover.

There's a Breeders song, "Do You Love me Now," that has a real timeless feel. The Yaz song. We don't do a lot of covers.

The National has yet to release a full-length album in a digipak. Is this on purpose? How much say does the artist have in packaging?


Scott does most of our design. The photo on "Boxer" was just a random photo at Peter's wedding that we thought was perfect.

Beatles or Beach Boys?


I'm Beatles.

Kanye West or 50 Cent?

To be perfectly honest, I couldn't make an educated guess. Maybe Kanye, because he was on "Entourage" last night. I guess that's an ignorant guess.

(At this point, Matt had to run for soundcheck, so we didn't get to the "What's for dinner?" question. Sorry Bistro folks).

For the unitiated, and shame on you, The National's staggering "Boxer:"

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000O5AYCA/ref=reg_hu-wl_mrai-recs/105-1759927-7462068

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Re: MuG Exclusive: An interview with The National

Postby Big Dave » Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:11 am

In this is the first in a series? Will the MG rule the music world?
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Postby michaelben » Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:12 am

Big Dave wrote:In this is the first in a series? Will the MG rule the music world?


MG will change the music industry as we know it.
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Re: MuG Exclusive: An interview with The National

Postby shallowgal » Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:25 am

Was Kanye on "Entourage" last night? Good. He's dead to me now. :x

:heart: Thanks for the interview ~ very nice, MonkeyBoy. :P
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Re: MuG Exclusive: An interview with The National

Postby zambies » Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:28 am

/me writes his usual bombastic and over-reaching crap that still has a kernel of truth in it

People that have not yet purchased Boxer have no reason to continue living, unless they go out and buy it right now. Especially since they're depriving themselves of one of the 2 or 3 best albums released so far this year.

Edit: Good show MB. Thanks for the interview. Thinking about a sequel? Let's say... The Thermals? :mrgreen:
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Re: MuG Exclusive: An interview with The National

Postby Big Dave » Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:29 am

shallowgal wrote:Was Kanye on "Entourage" last night? Good. He's dead to me now. :x

:heart: Thanks for the interview ~ very nice, MonkeyBoy. :P

It wasn't the last episode, but the one before that.
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Re: MuG Exclusive: An interview with The National

Postby Whybother? » Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:40 am

zambies wrote:Edit: Good show MB. Thanks for the interview. Thinking about a sequel? Let's say... The Thermals? :mrgreen:

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Re: MuG Exclusive: An interview with The National

Postby *MB* » Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:03 am

Glad to see folks are enjoying the interview. Matt was very, very gracious and accommodating, and I'm pleased to do whatever I can to help promote his excellent band. In fact, I will personally be seeing them live tomorrow....and if I come home with a shirt, it won't be the first time.
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Re: MuG Exclusive: An interview with The National

Postby mselisabs » Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:29 am

AWESOME! Yay Monkeyboy! Image :notworthy:
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Re: MuG Exclusive: An interview with The National

Postby zambies » Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:17 am

MonkeyBoy wrote:if I come home with a shirt, it won't be the first time.


Get me one too (size large, probably) and I promise to delay banning anyone with a domokun avatar for another week, maybe two. :mrgreen:
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Postby Kiboko » Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:23 pm

Pretty good stuff there, MB. :thumbsup:
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Re: MuG Exclusive: An interview with The National

Postby coltond » Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:24 pm

excellent work, mobo! keep 'em coming.

and if you can work in a question about maple syrup, i'd be even more impressed than i already am...
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Postby EvilGnome6 » Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:47 pm

Great work, MonkeyBoy! I have to admit it was a little thrilling to see you used one of my questions. :)
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Re: MuG Exclusive: An interview with The National

Postby ShAkeyToo » Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:25 pm

Nice, thanks. The Beatles or Beach Boys question was interesting. Typically it's Beatles or Stones.
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Re: MuG Exclusive: An interview with The National

Postby *MB* » Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:28 pm

ShAkeyToo wrote:Nice, thanks. The Beatles or Beach Boys question was interesting. Typically it's Beatles or Stones.


In typical MuG fashion, I was playing off a Pet Sounds discussion from some time ago, I think in the artist of the 1960's thread, where it was a Beatles/Beach Boys showdown, vs. the usual Stones vs. Beatles.
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Re: MuG Exclusive: An interview with The National

Postby apromisemade » Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:48 pm

really cool to see that you did an interview and associated it with MG. i think that this could add a lot to the community (including increased membership?).

BUT. i still don't get the hubbub surrounding this band.
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Re: MuG Exclusive: An interview with The National

Postby ShAkeyToo » Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:09 pm

MonkeyBoy wrote:
ShAkeyToo wrote:Nice, thanks. The Beatles or Beach Boys question was interesting. Typically it's Beatles or Stones.


In typical MuG fashion, I was playing off a Pet Sounds discussion from some time ago, I think in the artist of the 1960's thread, where it was a Beatles/Beach Boys showdown, vs. the usual Stones vs. Beatles.



Cool. I'm curious, have you contacted other artists or have plans for the future? The Mountain Goats, ie. John Darnielle, begin a brief tour on 9/20 and have an album coming out soon. John is pretty accessible (he often posts on his tMG home page, give and take with fans). Would be worth a try and likely an interesting interview. Thanks again for a cool feature.
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Postby coltond » Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:15 pm

fwiw... i broke down and bought their new album... at least i'll get the big karma kredit trading it out if i don't like it...
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Postby coltond » Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:18 pm

ShAkeyToo wrote:Cool. I'm curious, have you contacted other artists or have plans for the future? The Mountain Goats, ie. John Darnielle, begin a brief tour on 9/20 and have an album coming out soon. John is pretty accessible (he often posts on his tMG home page, give and take with fans). Would be worth a try and likely an interesting interview. Thanks again for a cool feature.


goAt should do that interview for some "goAt on goats" action...
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Re: MuG Exclusive: An interview with The National

Postby *MB* » Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:23 pm

ShAkeyToo wrote:
MonkeyBoy wrote:
ShAkeyToo wrote:Nice, thanks. The Beatles or Beach Boys question was interesting. Typically it's Beatles or Stones.


In typical MuG fashion, I was playing off a Pet Sounds discussion from some time ago, I think in the artist of the 1960's thread, where it was a Beatles/Beach Boys showdown, vs. the usual Stones vs. Beatles.



Cool. I'm curious, have you contacted other artists or have plans for the future? The Mountain Goats, ie. John Darnielle, begin a brief tour on 9/20 and have an album coming out soon. John is pretty accessible (he often posts on his tMG home page, give and take with fans). Would be worth a try and likely an interesting interview. Thanks again for a cool feature.


I am in talks with a few more bands right now...
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Re: MuG Exclusive: An interview with The National

Postby Fonzie » Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:28 pm

Laaaaaaaaaame. I wanted to know what the true meaning of Mr. November is.
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Postby Nickyboy » Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:30 pm

Fonzie wrote:Laaaaaaaaaame. I wanted to know what the true meaning of Mr. November is.

He's the pin-up on the back of your closet door. Ya happy now?
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Postby fogdog » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:34 pm

I'm shocked our little forum could pull in someone for an interview...whoever set this up thanks!
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Postby Mars » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:52 pm

MB is a journalist... so he probably just lied... 8-)
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Re: MuG Exclusive: An interview with The National

Postby Fonzie » Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:19 am

Nickyboy wrote:
Fonzie wrote:Laaaaaaaaaame. I wanted to know what the true meaning of Mr. November is.

He's the pin-up on the back of your closet door. Ya happy now?

Bu-but that doesn't even make sense!
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Re: MuG Exclusive: An interview with The National

Postby bc.rox.all » Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:11 am

Nice interview, MB.

I finally got Boxer about 2 weeks ago. It's brilliant. zambies was right.
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Re: MuG Exclusive: An interview with The National

Postby Rat Hunter » Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:16 am

Nice interview. Look what I miss when I'm gone. I'm really looking forward to seeing them again in a couple weeks.
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Postby gentes » Fri Sep 14, 2007 11:28 pm

a belated "good job" for monkeyboy.
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Re: MG Exclusive: An interview with The National

Postby Whybother? » Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:50 pm

Next Monday, 9/24, The National are going to perform a Lounge Act on WOXY at 2:00.
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Re: MG Exclusive: An interview with The National

Postby zambies » Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:49 pm

I saw them at Emo's in Austin last Saturday night. Holy Jesus fuck was that ever an incredible show. Broiling hot and sweaty, but good grief was it good. I feel sorry for the guys in the band though as it looked like the heat wiped them all out by the end.

Thanks to the National for putting on such a good show that it got me interested in concerts again after being burnt out on them for more than 6 months.
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Re: MG Exclusive: An interview with The National

Postby shallowgal » Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:27 pm

Whybother? wrote:Next Monday, 9/24, The National are going to perform a Lounge Act on WOXY at 2:00.



What time? 2:00 Eastern?? Mountain? Translation for time zone or a clue? wait.... oh. OK. That would be 2pm East Coast time. :mrgreen:
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Re: MG Exclusive: An interview with The National

Postby Whybother? » Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:04 pm

Whybother? wrote:Next Monday, 9/24, The National are going to perform a Lounge Act on WOXY at 2:00.

This just started.
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Re: MG Exclusive: An interview with The National

Postby shallowgal » Fri Sep 28, 2007 3:48 pm

Whybother? wrote:
Whybother? wrote:Next Monday, 9/24, The National are going to perform a Lounge Act on WOXY at 2:00.

This just started.



It's available as a podcast for those of us (ahem) who missed it. :mrgreen:
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